Spread Betting: Triaging My Way To Financial SuccessPosed On June 28th, 2010
Janice Bollinger asked:
I’ve been trading for almost 5 years and in that time my trading has gone from pretty much guesswork, to informed, managed and reasoned, thanks to the likes of my mentor and the ideas I’ve grasped from various sites, and so on.
Like many people here (I assume) I have a day job which I enjoy a lot but which keeps me occupied during market hours. Many moons ago my trading was a case of buying stock on one day, because I liked the sound of the stock, and hoping it went up on some later day. Really risky and uninformed, but in fact quite successful (or lucky!) and stress-free.
Now in more recent and informed times I use Level 2, I can spreadbet and short, I can look at warrants and ETFs, I can look at charts, I can plan entries and exits. Ironically my success has tailed off. In part this is because I have been playing with new ideas, trying out different strategies, and sometimes they’ve not worked well. I consider that part of the learning process and don’t begrudge a penny, and it’s been fantastically enjoyable on the way.
However back to the day job. Part of the decreased success is that I’ve been getting into more intraday stuff, such as using Level 2, looking at the way the market moves daily, and so on. This works great for some experienced stock traders and others who do this all day, but in my case the day job means I cannot devote attention to that way of trading. I might be able to check Level 2 now and again, but I cannot be certain that I can place a trade when I want to during the day. This makes me feel more stressed, as I’m constantly distracting myself from work and wondering where the positions are at. At the same time I feel comfortable with what I now know and wish to move away from experimentation to a more applied, serious approach.
Therefore I need to revise my approach. I still do the fundamentals, follow the news, do the technical analysis and plan entries (and ‘We Wait’s!) on the charts. Ideally I will be doing that in the evenings and getting a list of positions ready for the next day. I can then open them first thing the following day before work. Looking at daily charts I see no reason why this is not a viable way to operate. There is plenty of reward upside versus risk over such timeframes.
Since I’m also very interested in psychology I’ve become more and more attached to candlesticks and the sentiment they reveal. Therefore I’m investing a lot more time in studying candlesticks and using it to help time positions. I’ve set up an account on the britishbulls site which seems a good guide for now, and I have a couple of books on the way from Amazon. It’s just something which I can feel gels with my way of thinking. Because candlesticks represent trading pressures over a unit of time (eg day), it’s a good way to summarise the market sentiment during that time without needing to go intraday – exactly what I want to see with this approach.
So after all this rambling I hope I’ve conveyed it well and wondered if this has struck a chord with anyone in a similar position? Does anyone else trade mostly end of day because they are busy at work? How is it working given that you’re not looking at movements during the day? Looking at monthly candle charts it’s clear you can make very profitable investments over daily/weekly timeframes but I guess things become more news-driven as the timeframe expands.
Nancy
I’ve been trading for almost 5 years and in that time my trading has gone from pretty much guesswork, to informed, managed and reasoned, thanks to the likes of my mentor and the ideas I’ve grasped from various sites, and so on.
Like many people here (I assume) I have a day job which I enjoy a lot but which keeps me occupied during market hours. Many moons ago my trading was a case of buying stock on one day, because I liked the sound of the stock, and hoping it went up on some later day. Really risky and uninformed, but in fact quite successful (or lucky!) and stress-free.
Now in more recent and informed times I use Level 2, I can spreadbet and short, I can look at warrants and ETFs, I can look at charts, I can plan entries and exits. Ironically my success has tailed off. In part this is because I have been playing with new ideas, trying out different strategies, and sometimes they’ve not worked well. I consider that part of the learning process and don’t begrudge a penny, and it’s been fantastically enjoyable on the way.
However back to the day job. Part of the decreased success is that I’ve been getting into more intraday stuff, such as using Level 2, looking at the way the market moves daily, and so on. This works great for some experienced stock traders and others who do this all day, but in my case the day job means I cannot devote attention to that way of trading. I might be able to check Level 2 now and again, but I cannot be certain that I can place a trade when I want to during the day. This makes me feel more stressed, as I’m constantly distracting myself from work and wondering where the positions are at. At the same time I feel comfortable with what I now know and wish to move away from experimentation to a more applied, serious approach.
Therefore I need to revise my approach. I still do the fundamentals, follow the news, do the technical analysis and plan entries (and ‘We Wait’s!) on the charts. Ideally I will be doing that in the evenings and getting a list of positions ready for the next day. I can then open them first thing the following day before work. Looking at daily charts I see no reason why this is not a viable way to operate. There is plenty of reward upside versus risk over such timeframes.
Since I’m also very interested in psychology I’ve become more and more attached to candlesticks and the sentiment they reveal. Therefore I’m investing a lot more time in studying candlesticks and using it to help time positions. I’ve set up an account on the britishbulls site which seems a good guide for now, and I have a couple of books on the way from Amazon. It’s just something which I can feel gels with my way of thinking. Because candlesticks represent trading pressures over a unit of time (eg day), it’s a good way to summarise the market sentiment during that time without needing to go intraday – exactly what I want to see with this approach.
So after all this rambling I hope I’ve conveyed it well and wondered if this has struck a chord with anyone in a similar position? Does anyone else trade mostly end of day because they are busy at work? How is it working given that you’re not looking at movements during the day? Looking at monthly candle charts it’s clear you can make very profitable investments over daily/weekly timeframes but I guess things become more news-driven as the timeframe expands.
Nancy
