Spread Betting Review | Which Banks Will Be Nationalised?Posed On July 29th, 2009

Paddy Power asked:




Only three months ago, Gordon Brown claimed that he had “saved” the banks. Unfortunately it’s looking increasingly likely that he is going to have to save them again, this time by taking some of them into public ownership. With the UK short selling ban now revoked, you can short the UK banks and make a lot of money if nationalisation does occur.

There is no official plan to nationalise more UK banks at the moment or set up a “bad bank” system. So why did the banks share prices collapse this week? Well, more and more market analysts now believe that the UK is on a course of “creeping nationalisation”. Nationalisation would result in shareholders losing a lot. As the stock market is a forward looking mechanism, it has to discount the banks share prices by the probability that they will be nationalised. Some have been discounted by more than others. Let’s have a look at them.

The Current State Of The UK Banks

Royal Bank of Scotland is undoubtedly top of the list for nationalisation. Following their warning that 2008 losses could reach £28bn and an increased government stake to 70%, their path to public ownership seems to me to be inevitable. It looks like a sorry finish for a company, now worth only £5bn, that paid £50bn in cash for ABN AMRO only 18 months ago. Lofty ambition or foolish hubris?

The Lloyds TSB shotgun acquisition of HBoS resulted in it picking up about £21bn of assets for about half that price. They also got substantial bailout funds to help make the new Lloyds Banking Group work. But the risk now seems to be outweighing the benefits. Lloyds is already 43% state owned and if they accept the UK government’s new offer, the taxpayer will become the majority shareholder. This is not a situation that management would want, but they will find it difficult to resist the new deal for very long. And if they can’t prove the viability of their independence in the coming months, the government will be just forced to step in anyway. The clock is ticking.

Barclays could easily be in the same state as RBS, but for the fact that their bid for ABM AMRO failed. This has helped them avoid the need for any bailout money so far. But the clock is ticking for them too. They decided to buy Lehman Brothers US operations for £1bn when they really couldn’t afford it. Their balance sheet is looking vulnerable with a lot of unknowns. And any time in this crisis when the unknowns have become known, share prices have dived. Barclays will have to take some sort of government funding now. But there is increasing market speculation they are also heading towards nationalisation.

HSBC are going to survive (famous last words!) They actually have more deposits than Standard Chartered Share Priceloans in the UK which gives them the ability to absorb losses and write-downs, of which there have been a lot. Their size, diversification and creditworthiness have seen them become the biggest bank in the world by market capitalisation.

Standard Chartered have also performed admirably throughout this crisis, mainly due to their focus on emerging markets, especially Asia. They continue to deliver strong results and positive future guidance, meaning they are a rare growth company in these times of rapid de-leveraging.

More Trouble For The Irish Banks

In Ireland, the same nationalisation questions are being asked. Allied Irish Bank and Bank of Ireland have seen their share prices plunge 58% and 57% respectively since the start of the week. They need more funding and can’t seem to entice private investors to give it to them. Finance Minister Brian Lenihan has said there are no proposals to nationalise either of them… but he was saying the same thing about Anglo Irish Bank only a short time ago.

The third remaining Irish public bank, Irish Life & Permanent, isn’t in as much danger of being nationalised (at the moment). They weren’t part of the government plan for recapitalisation as their funding needs are much lower than the other two. The Irish Life part of the business looks to be fine – if only they could get rid of the Permanent TSB side!

Possible Trades

The UK financial shorting ban has been revoked (for now anyway) so markets can return to some sort of efficiency. But which banks are worth shorting? If your view is that one of the above is going to be nationalised, then there is still a lot of value in going short. Barclays have a market capitalisation of about £5.5bn which means it has plenty of room to fall further. Also if your view is that the world economy is going to get significantly worse, there is potentially value in shorting Standard Chartered.

On the other hand, this huge sell off could be overkill. The respective governments do not want to have to resort to nationalising their whole banking systems. Everything else will be tried first. As a result there could great value out there. AIB and Bank of Ireland, with retail branches in every town in Ireland, are now valued at a mere €533mln and €356mln respectively. But if you see queues outside your local branch that would be a good signal to get rid of your long position… fast!

Another possible trade is a pairs trade, explained in the hyperlinked blog. Here you would go long on the bank that you think will outperform and short the bank you think will underperform. In this case, you don’t really have to make a call on the banking industry in general. You just have to pick the banks that will do the best and the worst, although that’s not an easy task itself.

Conclusion

The sell off this week has been caused by speculation rather that hard fact. The market has decided to shoot first (and shoot often) and ask questions later. This reaction to what can only be described as rumours has undoubtedly been over the top, but that’s what the market has been driven to after been caught unawares so many times in the past.

For me, I don’t think that Allied Irish Bank are in such grave danger, so I think there is good value to a short term long position on them.

Whatever happens; the person who gets it right will make a lot of money.



Darren

Information on Financial Spread BettingPosed On July 25th, 2009

Sharon Dawkins asked:




Have you ever contemplated using financial spread betting as an alternative to purchasing shares? There are many fine reasons why you should think about this option. This form of investing presents one of the simplest ways to wager on downward moving markets. When you are spread betting, you are not buying shares, what you really are doing is betting on which way you believe your selected market will move either up or down.

More than likely should you be a new comer to this type of market, the term ‘betting’ could have put you off somewhat. We will explain a bit, many of us hear the word betting and imagine a bookie whom gives you odds, and you would then place your wager, either you win according to the odds and the bet, or else you lose. With spread betting, you are betting against another person that has the opposite opinion as you. For every winner there is a loser.

To make a spread bet, one must place it by means of a spread-bet dealer. This is actually not like a ‘bookie’, he or she is just an intermediary. If you are set to start, you would certainly get your package which in turn would have all information you required. Whenever you bet, your stake is going to be multiplied by each point the market moves for or against you, this would determine your win or loss.

Many people are utilizing this form of trading a great deal more currently; it is additionally catching up to CFD trading. Among the many reasons that investors are using this form of trading is for the simple fact that all profits are stamp duty free. There is also better command over loss management by utilizing limiting order and stop losses. In addition there are no dealing commissions which have to be paid.

Why is financial spread betting stamp duty free? This is really a straightforward question to answer, traders are not actually transferring any asset, and rather they are exchanging the price movements from within the actual equity. Also, the profits are exempt from the Capital Gains Tax, and this is due to it being in the gaming law sector.

Financial spread betting is not always something a beginner should start into, however, if you are willing to learn and maybe take a few hits, it might be good to start. Knowledgeable traders who are involved in the market and people whom understand the risks related to margins and gearing are normally who spread betting appeal to.



Willie

Spread Betting Experience – Ig IndexPosed On July 20th, 2009

Andy Richardson asked:




Here is the IG Index email promotion via advfn…

We are committed to giving you more. More markets, more trading tools, the best dealing Technology. We were the first to offer spread betting on shares in 1995. Now we cover over 7000 individual shares, plus indices, forex, commodities and more. Join IG Index for the ultimate spread betting service, where innovation comes as standard:

* Now you can trade directly from our free market-leading charts:

* View your positions and orders on any market

* DealThru trades are logged automatically on PureDeal

* Bring a new dimension to your charting

INNOVATION AS STANDARD DEALTHRU CHARTS

Remember that spread betting is a leveraged product and can result in losses that exceed your initial deposit. It may not be suitable for everyone, so please make sure that you fully understand the risks involved.

Review of IG Index Experience

The above is the email promotion of the Deal Thru charting with IG Index…without having to reference back to the dealing platform so regularly.

I am bringing this to your attention as my experience has been that this system can be unintentionally misleading…so here are a few points to note that have come to my notice during trading:

1 – Deal Thru charts may have a java script that unintentionally might delay the prices you see and execute against compared to the underlying platform. Whilst I cannot prove this, it would seem to be the only explanation in my experience to explain some of the price discrepancies I have noticed recently between Deal Thru and the underlying IG Platform on execution;

2 – Price cells are not filling in places on the charting software. To take just 1 example from today on the Dow 1 min (26/11/2008), there is no price data from 17.00-17.03 = 4 empty cells! That, for instance, means a standard MACD setting of 12,26,9 will contain a zero price value in one cell reference point for all of 26 price intervals until it is “cleaned” – in the meantime, metrics across the board on the IG Platform remain incorrect when price cells remain empty on their price feed;

3 – IGIndex (like most other counter parties) has of course a data feed disclaimer in its standard terms and conditions of Web site use – so, it’s down to you to watch out for the above types of event that can seriously damage your pocketbook.

I have contacted IG Index on numerous occasions to discuss these items and the answer I get is a stonewalling: the charts are indicative only and IG’s customer services say to refer to their T and Cs for the exact definitions of the agreement under which I use their site under…they take absolutely no responsibility for any losses sustained whilst using their or third party applications.

You would have thought that they might clean their data and be interested in checking out any delays in their Java scripts. Apparently not.

You have been warned ;-)



Jessica

Trade Commodities With Financial Spread Betting BrokerPosed On July 1st, 2009

Sergey Trishchev asked:




If you are a small or private investor, one of the easiest ways for you to be a part of the Forex is through financial spread betting. This is because unlike other brokers, a spread betting broker will not require big deposits.

This is a form of margined trading that an investor can use to speculate and invest on the markets. It is possible to open several accounts that will provide you with a chance to take part in commodity trading. This is possible because of the existing tax polices and leverage you get from financial spread betting.

This service is growing rapidly and there are various companies to offer better services to investors and provide spreads that are tighter. Apart from providing a cheaper investment option, as a private investor, you will have a variety of markets to choose from. The range of markets that are available will vary depending on the broker you choose but all of them give individual shares, forex, market indices, commodities and interest rates.

By trading commodities with a financial spread betting broker you will get to enjoy the various benefits that include:

Stamp duty is not charged
Derived products such as spread betting are not charged any stamp duty when shares are bought or sold.

Capital requirements are low
This is a margined product that allows you to buy shares on a margin.

It can be a short or long term investments
It is possible to make some profits in the falling markets when it comes to financial betting because it is a derived product therefore you can either buy or sell shares.

Vast range of markets
By getting involved in financial spread betting, you will have the opportunity to trade in various markets around the world including UK, Continental Europe, America and Asia. Apart from the range of markets available, you can speculate on forex markets and commodities like bonds, interest rates, gas, oil and wheat.

Capital Gains Tax is not paid
This is the most essential benefit that you get from financial spread betting compared to any other investment that you may be involved in. This means that any amount of money that you make will not be taxed. It is important to note that any losses that you get will not be offset on the tax bill.

Trade is open at any time
Unlike normal market trading that only opens from 8 am to 4.30 pm, spread betting offers trading all day and night from Sunday to Friday. This means even after the markets have closed, you will still be able to make money.

Risks are controlled
Financial spreads have controlled risk bets that allow you to have a stop level when you are dealing in the spread. Once the stop level reaches, the bet will close automatically.

Availability of credit facilities
A majority of companies that offer spread betting give credit accounts that ensure that capital is not tied up. This is given according to financial status and experience.

Charles